"Create Rally Point" action disapeared / not working

[[8]1|PFC.DogOne]

FT1 RP had approx 6 tickets left so FT leader (Super) and I tried to recreate it. Super dismantled it and then was not able to create it again. Im not sure now if his Create Rally Point action menu was gone or if it was there but not working.
Soon after, Super disconnected and I reconnected into FT leader slot. The action menu was there for me but unfortunately had no chance to test if its working.

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

More info...
<13:51:24> "[AToW]ViperMaul": I heard about that Rally Point bug. I heard of a workaround unfortunately.
<13:51:53> "[AToW]ViperMaul": For some reason it seems the Action Menu to create a RP moves from the Group leader to someone else in the group.
<13:52:12> "[AToW]ViperMaul": It is a bug that Barmy and I need to isolate and fix ASAP

[[8]72|Pvt.SAbre]

Yeah I think its mostly to do with the command of the squad moving down when the squad leader dies. As at the same time the teamleader icon at the bottom moves aswell to the next in command. It needs give the leader his leader status again when he respawns.

[{8}72|PFC.DogOne]

Do you have to be FT leader to be able to dismantle the RP?

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

DogOne, my understanding is no. You can be a member and dismantle.

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

Discussion - http://www.arma-tow.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12501 - Rally Point Bugs

[[1]MB|Pvt.kju]

Leader change happened to us too this battle. NOT before.

Ideas:
* reduce spawn time to 0
* addRating to the FTL

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

I say to Barmy, just give the action menu to everyone. And when they click it just check to see
1) if they are NOT the group leader then fail REF: http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/leader
2) if the other requirements for setting a RP are not met then fail.

This being a quick fix only of course.

[[1]MB|Pvt.kju]

well addAction to anyone and make leader the condition to show it.
Or better make it a radio command.

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

Barmy has applied a fix for this as well. Soon it will be in AddonSync for you all to test and confirm.
By our tests (Barmy, Daman, and myself) it appears to be fixed.

[[8]72|Pvt.SAbre]

Its not fixed from our test today.

Although the option is there it still doesn't build it, "Only squad leaders can build rally points". Like I said it thinks the 2IC is the leader. It even shows it at the bottom in the 'spatial awareness' bit, the icon with the half echelon moves down. When the Sqd Leader dies the 2IC indefinitely takes control(even when the leader respawns) untill the 2IC dies, and so on.

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

ok. great feedback.
Barmy is not here. Hopefully we can get a new fix.
What I need to know is this.
If I understand, you have told me that
1) For RP, the Group Leader never returns to the leader when he respawns
2) For ST_HUD, the Group Leader never returns to the leader when he respawns.

But what would be helpful is to know if the BIS group leader works or not. Because both the St_Hud and RP code should be relying on the BIS group leader HUD.

Did you test with AI or Humans?

[[8]72|Pvt.SAbre]

Humans.

1) For RP, the Group Leader never returns to the leader when he respawns
2) For ST_HUD, the Group Leader never returns to the leader when he respawns.

Correct, until the guy who 'took over' leadership dies.

Process.
1. Squad of 3, make a rally point. Get squad leader killed, the 2IC then has RP ability and ST_HUD group leader icon.
2. Get original leader back to RP, destroy RP, original leader cannot make RP, but 2 IC can. Make RP again.
3. Get 2IC (guy that can currently build RPs, i.e guy the game thinks is leader) killed. Immediately the original leader regains RP ability and leader status in HUD.

But what would be helpful is to know if the BIS group leader works or not. Because both the St_Hud and RP code should be relying on the BIS group leader HUD.

I have tested just quickly with ATOW in the editor and the first aid stuff and the leadership moves around correctly, leader down, 2IC takes over, heal him, leader retakes command.

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

Let's keep an eye on this during Battleday tomorrow.

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

Any issues with this??

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

I found another BUG situation here.

STEPS:
* Join in Group Lead Slot
* Start game with NO ONE in your group.

RESULT:
No menu showing "Create Rally Point"

* JIP player joins Group Slots

RESULT:
Still no menu showing "Create Rally Point"

* Group Leader dies ( no menu on respawn )
* Group Leader disconnects and JIPs back into same slot

RESULT:
Now the menu shows "Create Rally Point"


I believe this is due to the fact that there is a NULL Group when only 1 player exists

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

Need more feedback. Is the original bug reported here fixed?

[[8]72|JLt.Regi]

yesterday i had all the squad lead stuff in the action menu, during the ceasfire my connection dropped me out, i rejoined, but no one else could see me on map, i could see them, but they not me. Apparently it just gave the squad lead to an AI, and i could no longer get the option for create reallypoint etc.
I respawned, and my name appeared on the squad list again, and they could see my diamond, and i got my options back.
sort of along the same lines as this stuff.

[[AToW]ViperMaul]

Great Feedback!
Thanks!!

It sounds like this feature was at the mercy of BI's ability to get a previously disconnected player who dropped reconnected back to the group. And since we have no AI, I would imagine that AI was your disconnected body.

Apparently it required you to respawn? And apparently that fixed the issue.

[[1]MFR|1Lt.Dren]

couple notes
- Still if the SL dies and leadership moves to another player, the original SL can not create RP. (as kju suggested make SL "hardcoded" to slot or add action on the radio)
- We had RP up tickets left and still recieved "your squad doesent have RP".
This was after i reconnected the server. Tho same happened to rest of the squad guys (they couldnt use it). there was marker still showing on the map
- One of our squad members were able to use the RP even that we dismantlet it (rest couldnt)

[[8]1|PFC.DogOne]

MFR|1Lt.Dren']
- We had RP up tickets left and still recieved "your squad doesent have RP".
This was after i reconnected the server.

That bug have been reported (JIP problems). The reply was that unfortunately it wont be fixed until the next campaign.